In the Church of God International's Systematic Theology Project, we find one of the clearest and most succinct statements of the Armstrongist view of the Holy Spirit. We read there: The Holy Spirit is described in the Bible as “the Spirit of God,” “the Spirit of the Lord,” “the Spirit of Jesus Christ,” “the Spirit of truth,” and “comforter,” or “advocate.” It is the power of God, the mind of God and the extended means by which God accomplishes His work throughout the universe. As such, the Holy Spirit is not a separate being; it has no independent existence as an individual entity or person within the Godhead (Acts 2:17; Rom 8:26; 1 Cor. 8:6; Gal. 1:3). In short, they reject the doctrine of the Trinity by reducing the Holy Spirit to a nonentity.
Now, there are a number of passages in Scripture which refute this view, but I believe that those passages which deal with the notion of "God in us" are the most convincing in establishing the real nature and work of the Holy Spirit acting in concert (and complete harmony) with the Father and the Son. This wholly biblical concept makes clear that the Holy Spirit is an important member of the Godhead. Moreover, like the Father and the Son, the Holy Spirit has its own unique role to play in the accomplishment of God's will (especially where we are concerned). These passages also clearly establish that all three entities represent ONE Almighty God!
In the Gospel of John, after revealing to his disciples that he was the way to the Father and making very clear that they [Father and Son] were ONE (John 14:6-11), Jesus Christ had this to say about the Holy Spirit: If you love me, obey my commandments. And I will ask the Father, and he will give you another Advocate [Comforter], who will never leave you. He is the Holy Spirit, who leads into all truth. The world cannot receive him, because it isn’t looking for him and doesn’t recognize him. But you know him, because he lives with you now and later will be in you. No, I will not abandon you as orphans—I will come to you. Soon the world will no longer see me, but you will see me. Since I live, you also will live. When I am raised to life again, you will know that I am in my Father, and you are in me, and I am in you. Those who accept my commandments and obey them are the ones who love me. And because they love me, my Father will love them. And I will love them and reveal myself to each of them.” (John 14:15-21, NLT)
As a part of that same discourse, Jesus went on to make clear how the three members of the Godhead would act in concert. He said: “All who love me will do what I say. My Father will love them, and we will come and make our home with each of them. Anyone who doesn’t love me will not obey me. And remember, my words are not my own. What I am telling you is from the Father who sent me. I am telling you these things now while I am still with you. But when the Father sends the Advocate as my representative—that is, the Holy Spirit—he will teach you everything and will remind you of everything I have told you." (John 14:23-26, NLT) In other words, the Holy Spirit would serve his disciples in his absence - after he had returned to the Father in Heaven.
Jesus went on to expound on this subject in the record of his discourse which follows the above remarks in the next two chapters of the same account. He said: "But I will send you the Advocate [Comforter]—the Spirit of truth. He will come to you from the Father and will testify all about me." (John 15:26, NLT) Christ went on to reiterate and embellish this revelation in the following chapter too. We read there that he said: “But now I am going away to the one who sent me, and not one of you is asking where I am going. Instead, you grieve because of what I’ve told you. But in fact, it is best for you that I go away, because if I don’t, the Advocate [Comforter] won’t come. If I do go away, then I will send him to you. And when he comes, he will convict the world of its sin, and of God’s righteousness, and of the coming judgment. The world’s sin is that it refuses to believe in me. Righteousness is available because I go to the Father, and you will see me no more. Judgment will come because the ruler of this world has already been judged. There is so much more I want to tell you, but you can’t bear it now. When the Spirit of truth comes, he will guide you into all truth. He will not speak on his own but will tell you what he has heard. He will tell you about the future. He will bring me glory by telling you whatever he receives from me. All that belongs to the Father is mine; this is why I said, ‘The Spirit will tell you whatever he receives from me.’" (John 16:5-15, NLT) In other words, just as Christ was carrying the Father's message and representing him to humankind, the Holy Spirit would carry Christ's message and remind them of the things which Christ had taught them and done!
This very clear revelation of the nature and work of the Holy Spirit was affirmed by the experiences and writings of Christ's disciples. On the first Pentecost after Christ's resurrection and ascension to Heaven, we read this about the events of that day: On the day of Pentecost all the believers were meeting together in one place. Suddenly, there was a sound from heaven like the roaring of a mighty windstorm, and it filled the house where they were sitting. Then, what looked like flames or tongues of fire appeared and settled on each of them. And everyone present was filled with the Holy Spirit and began speaking in other languages, as the Holy Spirit gave them this ability." (Acts 2:1-4, NLT) This was the fulfillment of what Christ had promised them in the account of his ministry in the Gospel of John.
Paul wrote to the saints at Rome: "Those who are dominated by the sinful nature think about sinful things, but those who are controlled by the Holy Spirit think about things that please the Spirit. So letting your sinful nature control your mind leads to death. But letting the Spirit control your mind leads to life and peace. For the sinful nature is always hostile to God. It never did obey God’s laws, and it never will. That’s why those who are still under the control of their sinful nature can never please God. But you are not controlled by your sinful nature. You are controlled by the Spirit if you have the Spirit of God living in you. (And remember that those who do not have the Spirit of Christ living in them do not belong to him at all.) And Christ lives within you, so even though your body will die because of sin, the Spirit gives you life because you have been made right with God. The Spirit of God, who raised Jesus from the dead, lives in you. And just as God raised Christ Jesus from the dead, he will give life to your mortal bodies by this same Spirit living within you." (Romans 8:5-11, NLT)
Likewise, in his epistle to the saints at Corinth, Paul wrote one of the clearest expressions of "God in us" found in Scripture. He wrote: "Don’t you realize that all of you together are the temple of God and that the Spirit of God lives in you? God will destroy anyone who destroys this temple. For God’s temple is holy, and you are that temple." (I Corinthians 3:16-17, NLT) In his letter to the saints at Ephesus, Paul wrote: "So now you Gentiles are no longer strangers and foreigners. You are citizens along with all of God’s holy people. You are members of God’s family. Together, we are his house, built on the foundation of the apostles and the prophets. And the cornerstone is Christ Jesus himself. We are carefully joined together in him, becoming a holy temple for the Lord. Through him you Gentiles are also being made part of this dwelling where God lives by his Spirit." (Ephesians 2:19-22, NLT) Finally, in his second epistle to his young protege, Timothy, he referenced the fact that the Holy Spirit dwells within us (II Timothy 1:14)
We should also note that the Greek word translated into English as (dwell(s) or dwelleth) literally means to inhabit or live within. Hence, we can clearly see the error of the Armstrongist view. If the Holy Spirit is not a part of the Trinity, then how can God be living within us? If the Holy Spirit is not a "separate being," "person," or "entity," how can it act on our behalf or comfort us? How can a "power" teach us something or help us to remember anything? If the Holy Spirit isn't part of the Trinity, then why does Christ attribute a separate role for it to play in God's plans? How can a nonentity engender immortal life within us or guide us into anything? No, I'm sorry - the Armstrongist view simply does NOT hold up to scrutiny! What do you think?
Scripture speaks of the Spirit AS IF it were a substance, person, or force separate from God. We are told that God "pours out" and "sends" the Spirit, and the Spirit "fills" individuals and groups. But, as many scholars (both Catholic and Protestant) recognize, these are simply ways of speaking of God in action or of the divine presence within the natural world. The Spirit is not something other than or outside of God; it is God Himself acting within His creation. This is similar to the way Scripture speaks of God's Word. The Word goes forth out of God's mouth and creates, heals, etc., and it even "returns" to God after completing its task. Such passages are not speaking of an entity, force, or power that is other than God and that God uses to accomplish His purposes in the earth; rather, it is God Himself acting within His creation. Scripture speaks of Wisdom in similar terms.
ReplyDeleteI wrote an article on this topic a good many years ago. You can read it here: https://cdn.subsplash.com/documents/4JHQDW/_source/5b3e0105-a8b5-42d3-8786-b21b413530d8/document.pdf
Vance S.
Vance,
DeleteThank you for taking the time to read this post and respond. I found much to agree with in the article you penned long ago and in your comment here. Above, you stated that "Scripture speaks of the Spirit AS IF it were a substance, person, or force" - we could also say the same about the Father and the Son.
You referenced the fact that Scripture refers to the Spirit being poured out on others, but I noticed that you failed to mention the Messianic prophecy in Isaiah. In a long passage that is clearly speaking about Jesus, we are told that "He poured out His soul unto death." (Isaiah 53:12)
In the Old Testament, God appeared as a disembodied voice, burning bush, pilar of fire and cloud, as a man, as a spirit-composed man, etc. We also read in those writings that God's presence and glory filled the Tabernacle and the Temple at various times. Indeed, many of these various manifestations were repeated in the New Testament.
When Moses asked God about his name, God replied that "I am what I am." In other words, I encompass more than you can comprehend. We tend to speak of God as a person/personage/man, but Scripture reveals something beyond the human experience. We are told that God IS LOVE, and that God is a Spirit. These are NOT ways in which we would normally describe a person or any other earthly entity.
Likewise, Christ appears as the express image of the Father, the Word/Logos, the Lamb, the Branch/Root, First/Last, Good Sheppard, Vine, Bread of Heaven, etc.
Hence, it is not remarkable that the Holy Spirit appears as Comforter/Helper, Dove, Tongues of Fire, Wind, etc.
Moreover, all three appear within the context of dreams and visions. All three are described as working in humankind's interest. All three appear as working for the benefit of humankind and are described as producing evidence of their existence. Moreover, Scripture often describes them as interchangeable and working in concert - part of ONE entity known as God!
Perhaps, that explains why I loved and can fully embrace this statement from your own article: "It is clear, then, that the Holy Spirit is neither a separate Person of the Godhead nor an impersonal force that God uses from time to time to accomplish His will. The Holy Spirit is God; it is both God the Father and Christ the exalted Son acting powerfully in the cosmos and upon the lives of human beings." My response: "Amen!"
I appreciate the "Amen," but I think you're missing the point of the first statement of my reply. Please note carefully the "AS IF" part of the statement, "Scripture speaks of the Spirit AS IF it were a substance, person, or force separate from God." I'm saying that the Spirit is NOT a "substance, person, or force SEPARATE from God"! The Spirit is NOT merely an "active force" (JW description) that God has access to and uses from time to time. The Spirit is GOD! So I didn't "fail" to mention Isaiah 53:12; I simply didn't mention it just as I didn't mention many other passages that would have shown how Scripture uses figurative expressions.
ReplyDeleteEvery point you make in your response above is in full agreement with the article I sent to you (and with the first statement of my reply). I made it clear that the Spirit that dwells in us is "God in us." God is transcendent; yet, He can in a very real way dwell within us and act within His creation. The scriptural writers described the divine presence as the "Spirit of God," or "Holy Spirit." These terms, along with the descriptions of the Spirit being poured out," "sent," etc., are a figurative way of speaking of God present and acting within His creation.
You wrote, "Likewise, Christ appears as the express image of the Father, the Word/Logos, the Lamb, the Branch/Root, First/Last, Good Sheppard, Vine, Bread of Heaven, etc. Hence, it is not remarkable that the Holy Spirit appears as Comforter/Helper, Dove, Tongues of Fire, Wind, etc." Excellent point! And it happens to be MY point. Christ is not actually an image, word, lamb, branch/root, etc., and the "Comforter" is not actually a personality separate from the Father and Son. Christ was using a figurative description of the spiritual presence and indwelling of both Father and Son. "I am coming to you.... We will come to them and make our home with them" (Jn 14:18, 23). As Christ said in that discussion, "I have spoken to you in figures of speech" (16:25).
--VS
Vance,
DeleteI did not miss the point of that first statement of your reply. The "AS IF" is also comprehended in my point of view. Scripture speaks of the Father and the Son AS IF they were a substance, person, or force SEPARATE from God. Thus, in your reply to my reply, you seem to be unwilling or unable to see that you have effectively endorsed the doctrine of the Trinity (3 manifestations of ONE God).
Hence, your insistence that your article demonstrates the binitarian view of God reduces it to apologetics. I agree with you that the Holy Spirit IS God, and that the Father and Son dwell with us through "him." Are you, then, insisting that the Father and Son should be regarded as separate from each other? I have no problem giving an "Amen" to your statements and another "Amen" to the Nicene Creed! I think that our conversation demonstrates that semantics, and arguments based on it, can be a tricky business.
OK---I get where you were coming from. I was thrown off by your stating that I had "failed" to mention a passage where the Messiah is said to have "poured out" His soul. I thought that made my point, not refuted it; so naturally I assumed you misunderstood the point I was making.
DeleteYou asked, "Are you, then, insisting that the Father and Son should be regarded as separate from each other?" I believe they are PERSONALLY distinct (or separate, if you will), though ontologically one. (Those who hold the social model of the trinity believe this, too.) John 1:1 tells us WHO the Word was with and WHAT the Word was. Also, it could be said that I believe in the economic trinity, which pertains to how we here below experience and relate to God above. Therefore, I have no problem with saying that Father, Son, and Holy Spirit are three manifestations of God. That statement is consistent with trinitarianism, whether we're talking about one-self or three-self trinitarianism, and with modalism (which, some would argue, is not far from one-self trinitarianism). It is also consistent with my view, which is that the Spirit is personal (as it is the spiritual presence of both the Father and the Son), but not a THIRD person who is neither the Father nor the Son.
Even when metaphors, anthropomorphisms, and figurative expressions are used of Him, it is always understood by everyone that God the Father is a person (though I realize this term is less than adequate). Similarly, it is always understood by everyone that Jesus Christ is a person. This cannot be said of the Holy Spirit. As many scholars (including trinitarians) have acknowledged, the distinct personhood of the Spirit is not clear from the scriptural data. That the "Spirit of YHWH" was the dynamic presence of God is clear in Scripture, was understood in ancient times, and is the understanding of Jews today. We do find a few scriptures, especially in the NT, that describe the Spirit as a person distinct from God the Father and Christ the Son (Jn 14-16, for example), but these passages can easily be understood as figurative descriptions of the dynamic presence of God, both Father and Son, and there are even clues in the texts pointing to this understanding.
I would not make a big fuss of this with my trinitarian friends. As I have said before, I do not think that believing in the trinity (as defined by the historic councils) will prevent one from receiving the Holy Spirit or keep one out of the Kingdom of God. So if you prefer to consider yourself trinitarian, that's fine. One or two of your other views are a much bigger issue to me than that.
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Whatever the theological topic happens to be, I think we run into problems when we attempt to get too far into the weeds. We must always remember that we currently see through a glass darkly. Fortunately, you are not responsible for my views, and I'm not responsible for yours. Moreover, whether or not you or I have God's Holy Spirit is a matter wholly between each of us and God - though we should note that its presence can be discerned through the evidence it produces in a person's life (and that has little to do with what we know or think we know).
DeleteE.W. Bullinger considered himself to be Trinitarian but not in the traditional sense. He emphatically did not believe the Holy spirit to be an independent personality (a person) like the Father and the Son.
ReplyDeleteWhat did he believe?
"As the spirit of a man is to man, so the spirit of God is to God; in one sense the same, but in another sense distinct".
Word Studies on the Holy Spirit, pg.36-39, Kregel, 1905, 1979